Friday 23 September 2011

Simple analysis of Bull & Bear months


Bulls and Bears KLCI









High
Date
Low
Date
Chg
Chg %
Duration (months)
Bears
1
540.33
30/8/81
220.74
12/8/82
(319.59)
-59.1%
11


2
426.79
8/2/84
169.83
2/5/86
(256.96)
-60.2%
15


3
470.16
10/8/87
223.12
7/12/87
(247.04)
-52.5%
4


4
632.22
1/8/90
459.08
28/9/90
(173.14)
-27.4%
2


5
635.02
29/5/91
505.47
19/8/91
(129.55)
-20.4%
2.5


6
1,314.46
5/1/94
840.87
24/1/95
(473.59)
-36.0%
13


7
1,085.04
5/6/95
883.96
14/11/95
(201.08)
-18.5%
6


8
1,271.57
25/2/97
262.70
1/9/98
(1,008.87)
-79.3%
18


9
1,013.27
18/2/00
553.34
9/4/01
(459.93)
-45.4%
13.5


10
808.07
23/4/02
616.46
3/12/02
(191.61)
-23.7%
7


11
1,516.22
11/1/08
829.41
29/10/2008
(686.81)
-45.3%
10
















Simple Avg
(377.11)
-42.5%
9.3






Avg (ex-1990)


10













Low
Date
High
Date
Chg
Chg %
Duration (months)
Bulls
1
220.74
12/8/82
426.79
8/2/84
206.05
93.3%
18


2
169.83
2/5/86
470.16
10/8/87
300.33
176.8%
15


3
223.12
7/12/87
632.22
1/8/90
409.10
183.4%
32


4
459.08
28/9/90
635.02
29/5/91
175.94
38.3%
8


5
505.47
19/8/91
1,314.46
5/1/94
808.99
160.0%
28


6
840.87
24/1/95
1,085.04
5/6/95
244.17
29.0%
5


7
883.96
14/11/95
1,271.57
25/2/97
387.61
43.8%
16


8
262.70
1/9/98
1,013.27
18/2/00
750.57
285.7%
17


9
553.34
9/4/01
808.07
23/4/02
254.73
46.0%
13


10
616.46
3/12/02
1,516.22
11/1/08
899.76
146.0%
61


11
829.41
29/10/08
1,594.74
8/7/11
765.33
92.3%
32
















simple avg
443.73
120.3%
22.3






Avg (ex 95 and 02)


19.9











Current Scenario









High
Date
Current
Date
Chg
Chg %
Duration


1594.74
8/7/11
1,387.81
22/9/2011
-206.93
-13.0%
2












As can be seen, our Bear market lasts an average of 10 months with an average decline of 43% with the previous 2008 decline falling 45% from peak to trough. Assuming a similar decline this time round, CI is potentially looking at 920 points. Before one falls off the chair, let me remind that this is a very simplistic way of looking at the downside. Other factors that need to be accounted for include economic conditions and more importantly, the intensity of the fall. We are in fact “happy” to note that the recent sell down is significant which could help the bearish condition end sooner rather than later.

Besides the bear markets during 87, 90 and 91 which had fallen an average rate of 8% - 13.7% per month, normal bears that KL had experienced usually drop at a rate of 3%-4% per month. At the current moment, we are averaging some 6.5% per month (we have dropped 13% from peak within a mere 2 months). While it sounds bad but it does help bear markets end sooner rather than letting it drag.

Above Information from ECMLibra.

REI : The above is an interesting data,  my take will be 2 scenerio
Scenerio 1: Taking an average data of 10 months of bear, then there will be another 8 months of bear to go before we see any bottoms till May2012.
Scenerio 2: Then again, if the rate is 13% for 2 months and KLCI is to decline say 42.5%, there will be rough another 5 months to go, by then will be around Mar2012.
So, either one, no long term play (except dollar cost averaging strategy) but we can still punt for sharp drop rebounds . Haha, this is for those itch finger type and punting is punting , it will not lead to financial freedom, so only can play small small, like the saying goes, drink a mug of beer everyday is good for you health but if more than that will be quite bad for your health.







2 comments:

  1. Hi Rei,
    This Data is nice! Which means another 5-6months, can go for FUTURES MARKET. Ha!!

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  2. thanks, now we are at bear rally meaning index going up in a confirm long term downtrend. Shorting will need to be done when the index have reaches her peak of rebound. happy trading.

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